Re: What's Your Go-to OS
By: Accession to Dumas Walker on Fri Feb 21 2025 06:49 pm

This was at the same time Windows 8 did the exact same thing. People with desktops were furious, so Windows 8.1 was released very soon after that addressed it. By the looks of it, Gnome has also addressed it, somewhat.

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Nick

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well it was easy to change around with a 3rd party.
i think i just rigged mine to auto login
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Hey MRO!

On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 14:20:00 -0600, you wrote:

well it was easy to change around with a 3rd party. i think i just
rigged mine to auto login

Sure, but 3rd party stuff shouldn't be necessary for any desktop environment in order to make it work comfortably with a desktop PC. They all thought tablets were going to take over the world, and they didn't.

At that time, I remember Gnome had all icons (like a tablet would) and no "start" menu. I think at first, they brought the start menu back, and then they eventually turned all the large icons into regular icons that could be placed in a taskbar/docker thing again.

Windows did something similar around the Windows 8 release, and then went backpeddled in 8.1 to at least offer an option for a normal non-touchscreen desktop style again.

I remember that time quite well, as I was dabbling with Linux for awhile before that just as a fun hobby, but right around that time was when I ended up shifting all of my BBS/FTN, plex and other server related stuff over to CLI Linux, for good.

Now I just keep Windows for gaming. While Linux is catching up (slowly), it still has a ways to go when it comes to high-end gaming.

Regards,
Nick

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Re: What's Your Go-to OS
By: Accession to MRO on Sat Feb 22 2025 05:22 pm

Now I just keep Windows for gaming. While Linux is catching up (slowly), it still has a ways to go when it comes to high-end gaming.

I'd like to see more Linux support for gaming too. It sounds like it has come a little ways though. I've heard of Proton for Linux, allowing more Windows games to run on Linux, but I think it still has a bit of a ways to go. Native Linux versions of games would be ideal too - but I've been seeing more of that too. Several months ago, I heard of a 2018 sequel to the old PC Descent games, called Overload, and it's available for Linux, as well as Windows and Mac. And if you like flight simulators, X-Plane is available for Linux - I've tried it, and I actually think it's quite good. There's also an open-source arena shooter game called Xonotic that's pretty good (it's somewhat similar to Unreal Tournament).

And the Java version of Minecraft should naturally run on Linux too.

Nightfox

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Re: What's Your Go-to OS
By: Accession to MRO on Sat Feb 22 2025 05:22 pm

Sure, but 3rd party stuff shouldn't be necessary for any desktop environment in order to make it work comfortably with a desktop PC. They all thought tablets were going to take over the world, and they didn't.

At that time, I remember Gnome had all icons (like a tablet would) and no "start" menu. I think at first, they brought the start menu back, and then they eventually turned all the large icons into regular icons that could be placed in a taskbar/docker thing again.

Windows did something similar around the Windows 8 release, and then went backpeddled in 8.1 to at least offer an option for a normal non-touchscreen desktop style again.

I remember that time quite well, as I was dabbling with Linux for awhile before that just as a fun hobby, but right around that time was when I ended up shifting all of my BBS/FTN, plex and other server related stuff over to CLI Linux, for good.

i just think it was a poor decision to make it LOOK like a mobile device and there was backlash so they change it to make people happy. you cant fault them for trying, though.

I still use windows for my home system because i am no longer a power user. i of course use linux for my servers because that's the best way to do things.

i'm not a big gamer, i just can't stand the repetition. i will mess around with a sandbox game but i dont think i can ever play a game until completion ever again.
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Re: What's Your Go-to OS
By: Accession to Nightfox on Sun Feb 23 2025 06:29 am

And the Java version of Minecraft should naturally run on Linux too.

I've never played Minecraft, but have watched my kids play it over the years. From what I've seen of it (as well as anything from 'Roblox'), I'm not interested in any of that stuff where the graphics seem to be straight out of the 90s.

I've never played Roblox, but for Minecraft, it's more about the gameplay than the graphics. And there are mods for it too (at least, the Java version) that can change the graphics too.

Nightfox

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Re: What's Your Go-to OS
By: Nightfox to Accession on Sun Feb 23 2025 02:10 pm

And the Java version of Minecraft should naturally run on Linux too.

I've never played Minecraft, but have watched my kids play it over the years. From what I've seen of it (as well as anything from 'Roblox'), I'm not interested in any of that stuff where the graphics seem to be straight out of the 90s.

I've never played Roblox, but for Minecraft, it's more about the gameplay than the graphics. And there are mods for it too (at least, the Java version) that can change the graphics too.

I got into Minecraft when my daughter expressed an interest, she picks it up from time to time, she built a world with just horse stuff and modded it herself. I moved her world to a server so she can pop on whenever she feels like it. I just figured out how to make it easy for her friends to play with her too.

I agree with NF, the gameplay is amazing. It's not about the graphics, but the graphics are next level beautiful, and anyone that says otherwise has never taken the time to play it.

Action, Exploration, Discovery, and truely free to do whatever you want. It's such an amazing game/program/tool. Buy the client once, server software is free. For like $30 it's a no brainer purchase.

Other games like Stardew Valley, while a little silly have some serious deep gameplay, and that one develper has been updating that game for more than 10 years at no charge. Buy the game once, and that's it. Game has always been $30. Worth every penny. (when it goes on sale)

Some of my new favorites, Dredge, Hades, Dave the Diver. I even spent money on Dwarf Fortress when it went retail (those guys deserved it).

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On 28 Feb 2025, Android8675 said the following...

I got into Minecraft when my daughter expressed an interest, she picks
it up from time to time, she built a world with just horse stuff and modded it herself. I moved her world to a server so she can pop on whenever she feels like it. I just figured out how to make it easy for
her friends to play with her too.

i've always enjoyed minecraft as well. me and my brother usually end up playing it after enough random new things have ended up in the game. that and there are some incredible mods if you're into that.

i duno if it's still maintained but there was one that added guns, gunsmithing, crafting ammo, grenades, etc etc.. and then another that added all the doom enemies to the nether. made for a pretty great combo heheh

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Android8675 wrote to Nightfox <=-

I got into Minecraft when my daughter expressed an interest, she picks
it up from time to time, she built a world with just horse stuff and modded it herself. I moved her world to a server so she can pop on whenever she feels like it. I just figured out how to make it easy for
her friends to play with her too.

I agree with NF, the gameplay is amazing. It's not about the graphics,
but the graphics are next level beautiful, and anyone that says
otherwise has never taken the time to play it.

I see they're making a minecraft movie, and it's going to be in 3d. I'd
see that.

I played with the early versions of Minecraft, and was amazed at
building when you don't have to worry about gravity. I mostly tried to
see how high I could go.

I really got into C418, the musician who wrote the piano pieces that
would play during the game. He's got a bunch of music online.




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Re: What's Your Go-to OS
By: Arelor to Nightfox on Sun Mar 02 2025 07:30 am

I'd like to see more Linux support for gaming too. It sounds like it has

You have plenty of commercial support nowadays. It is brutal. There is an incoming Linux Magazine article about that, by the way.

See, Steam has devoted a whole lot of money into designing a handheld computer and a Linux distribution to slap on it, designed specifically for playing commercial games on Linux, as a strategic moove to cease depending on Windows.

I'm aware of that. Have you tried it though? Many people have said many Windows games still have trouble running in Linux or won't run at all. I've tried it myself and have been unable to run a few of the games I like to play. Also, there are some demanding Windows games that I like (such as Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024) that I just don't think would run in Linux.

Also, native Linux versions would be even more ideal than having a compatibility layer to run Windows games in Linux.

Nightfox

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Re: What's Your Go-to OS
By: Nightfox to Arelor on Sun Mar 02 2025 01:20 pm

I'm aware of that. Have you tried it though? Many people have said many Windows games still have trouble running in Linux or won't run at all. I've tried it myself and have been unable to run a few of the games I like to play. Also, there are some demanding Windows games that I like (such as Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024) that I just don't think would run in Linux.

I ran Bazzite for a couple of months, then wrote an article about it. The results were sound enough that I bought a SteamDeck for personal use.

Compatibility is not perfect but a significant percentage of the games I want to run work GreatTM and the overwhelmingly most works well enough. The real trick is using some means of automation in order to install the games, so you don't have to do it all manually yourself. Stuff like Lutris is great because it installs your games for you with known good configurations using community scripts.

Also, lots of games made with Unity get Linux native versions.

I don't play particularly new stuff, but I have found you can run most of the games most of the time. If you want 100% compatibility you are out of luck, but at this point of Computer History you are screwed with Windows there too.


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