• Lord 4.08b?

    From Rixter@VERT/RICKSBBS to All on Sun Dec 29 18:29:16 2024
    Where can I get a download of 4.08b? I want to try it out and see if it fixes a n intermittent problem with Lord4.07. The first caller of the day in 4.07 signs in or enters the game and it gives the announcenment like "You clean your weapon" and then it exits the game sending them back to the BBS door menu. They get back in and it lets them know they are in the 'maint' other places... there is no maint other places. I do have a lord Maint nightly run batch file. The game proceeds perfectly and the rest of the callers for the day have no problems. Just the first caller each day.
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  • From Exodus@VERT/PHARCYDE to Rixter on Mon Dec 30 00:52:02 2024
    Where can I get a download of 4.08b? I want to try it out and see if it fix n intermittent problem with Lord4.07. The first caller of the day in 4.07 s in or enters the game and it gives the announcenment like "You clean your weapon" and then it exits the game sending them back to the BBS door menu. get back in and it lets them know they are in the 'maint' other places... t is no maint other places. I do have a lord Maint nightly run batch file. Th game proceeds perfectly and the rest of the callers for the day have no problems. Just the first caller each day.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Rixter on Mon Dec 30 08:10:00 2024
    Rixter wrote to All <=-

    Where can I get a download of 4.08b? I want to try it out and see if it fixes a n intermittent problem with Lord4.07. The first caller of the
    day in 4.07 signs in or enters the game and it gives the announcenment like "You clean your weapon" and then it exits the game sending them
    back to the BBS door menu. They get back in and it lets them know they
    are in the 'maint' other places... there is no maint other places. I do have a lord Maint nightly run batch file. The game proceeds perfectly
    and the rest of the callers for the day have no problems. Just the
    first caller each day.

    Sounds like your nightly Maint batch file event is hanging and not
    completing properly. I'd say you should check your logs and see what's happening with that (make sure it's actually finishing/exiting).



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  • From Rixter@VERT/RICKSBBS to Exodus on Tue Dec 31 05:04:05 2024
    Here with 900,000 other files.

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    Thank you exodus.

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  • From Rixter@VERT/RICKSBBS to Gamgee on Tue Dec 31 05:09:11 2024
    Sounds like your nightly Maint batch file event is hanging and not
    completing properly. I'd say you should check your logs and see what's happening with that (make sure it's actually finishing/exiting).

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    Hi Gamgee,
    It is my night run batch file that handles all doors including LORD and it exits with 0 no errors in the log. I was very curious about that myself because of the timing when I had all the nightly runs separate and when I took them to one master batch file is about the same time this issue with the first caller to enter lord gets sent back to door menu issue started. More investigation is needed. Happy new year Gamgee.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Rixter on Tue Dec 31 07:51:21 2024
    Rixter wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Sounds like your nightly Maint batch file event is hanging and not completing properly. I'd say you should check your logs and see what's happening with that (make sure it's actually finishing/exiting).

    It is my night run batch file that handles all doors including LORD and
    it exits with 0 no errors in the log. I was very curious about that
    myself because of the timing when I had all the nightly runs separate
    and when I took them to one master batch file is about the same time
    this issue with the first caller to enter lord gets sent back to door
    menu issue started. More investigation is needed. Happy new year
    Gamgee.

    OK, well, not sure what would cause that. I use version 4.06 because
    it's registered to me (paid for it back in the early 90's), and 4.06 is
    the last version that honors the old (valid) registrations. Not sure
    what kind of nightly "maintenance" involves LORD, as there is no need
    for that in LORD that I'm aware of. Just checked the docs and there's
    no mention of maintenance for LORD. Anyway, happy New Year to you also.



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  • From Exodus@VERT/PHARCYDE to Gamgee on Tue Dec 31 10:27:56 2024
    OK, well, not sure what would cause that. I use version 4.06 because
    it's registered to me (paid for it back in the early 90's), and 4.06 is

    Gameport honored the 4.07 free update to my reg codes from 1995 about 20 years ago. Not sure if they still will, but worth an email.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Exodus on Tue Dec 31 12:03:35 2024
    Exodus wrote to Gamgee <=-

    OK, well, not sure what would cause that. I use version 4.06 because
    it's registered to me (paid for it back in the early 90's), and 4.06 is

    Gameport honored the 4.07 free update to my reg codes from 1995 about
    20 years ago. Not sure if they still will, but worth an email.

    Yeah, thanks but I probably won't even bother. 4.06 works fine and I
    don't think there's any significant difference. Also, at least for me
    right now, their website won't even open.



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  • From Rixter@VERT/RICKSBBS to Gamgee on Tue Dec 31 12:10:46 2024
    OK, well, not sure what would cause that. I use version 4.06 because
    it's registered to me (paid for it back in the early 90's), and 4.06 is
    the last version that honors the old (valid) registrations. Not sure
    what kind of nightly "maintenance" involves LORD, as there is no need
    for that in LORD that I'm aware of. Just checked the docs and there's
    no mention of maintenance for LORD. Anyway, happy New Year to you also.

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    LORD IGMs, 4 of them have nightly events. Not the LORD game itself. I left that little nugget out. I will experiment by turning off the night event and see if it is causing the problem. 4.06 was a very good version and I have it installed and ready to run if I need to.

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Gamgee on Tue Dec 31 15:20:08 2024
    Hello Gamgee,

    On Tue, Dec 31 2024 12:03:35 -0600, you wrote ..

    Gameport honored the 4.07 free update to my reg codes from 1995
    about 20 years ago. Not sure if they still will, but worth an
    email.

    Yeah, thanks but I probably won't even bother. 4.06 works fine and I
    don't think there's any significant difference. Also, at least for me
    right now, their website won't even open.

    If I remember right, 4.07 was when Michael Preslar took over development (or started making actual changes), basically added some odd colors in wierd spots, and a bunch of spelling mistakes. Then, in 4.08 he started adding ansi, including at least one long scroller.. and was still ridden with spelling errors.

    So, I'd probably have to say that 4.06 was/is definitely the cleanest version. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Accession on Tue Dec 31 19:22:53 2024
    Accession wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Gameport honored the 4.07 free update to my reg codes from 1995
    about 20 years ago. Not sure if they still will, but worth an
    email.

    Yeah, thanks but I probably won't even bother. 4.06 works fine and I
    don't think there's any significant difference. Also, at least for me
    right now, their website won't even open.

    If I remember right, 4.07 was when Michael Preslar took over
    development (or started making actual changes), basically added some
    odd colors in wierd spots, and a bunch of spelling mistakes. Then, in
    4.08 he started adding ansi, including at least one long scroller.. and was still ridden with spelling errors.

    Cool, well that seals the deal then. Don't need any of that garbage.

    So, I'd probably have to say that 4.06 was/is definitely the cleanest version. :)

    Yep, sounds like it. Thanks.



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ACCESSION on Wed Jan 1 09:16:00 2025
    If I remember right, 4.07 was when Michael Preslar took over development (or started making actual changes), basically added some odd colors in wierd spots
    and a bunch of spelling mistakes. Then, in 4.08 he started adding ansi, including at least one long scroller.. and was still ridden with spelling errors.

    You can actually go in and replace that long scroller with one of the
    older, single-screen/simpler, ANSIs. I did that on one of the games on Moe's.


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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dumas Walker on Wed Jan 1 10:54:05 2025
    Hello Dumas,

    On Wed, Jan 01 2025 08:16:00 -0600, you wrote ..

    You can actually go in and replace that long scroller with one of the
    older, single-screen/simpler, ANSIs. I did that on one of the games
    on Moe's.

    Yeah. Fairly certain you can replace and/or add ansi just about everywhere in the 4.08 version, making it quite a bit unique. Caphood/Hawk Hubbard (RIP) had a completely done up LORD with great ansi everywhere. If I remember right, I did one of the newer 24 line loader screens for that version.

    I just think that after 4.06 more bugs/spelling errors were introduced, is all.. but 4.07+ was a new programmer trying to do new things with it, which I still respect in any regard. It was a shame what Gameport did to Preslar, though (I think he had the rights to work on the source, and they basically told him his time with them was done).. and why 4.08(b) was handed out to a few of the beta testers as a "!@#$ you" to Gameport. Eventually, after Preslar disappeared and Gameport got very slow and/or stopped answering emails, it was leaked out to everyone. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to all on Wed Jan 1 14:28:52 2025
    Re: Re: Lord 4.08b?
    By: Dumas Walker to ACCESSION on Wed Jan 01 2025 09:16 am

    If I remember right, 4.07 was when Michael Preslar took over development (or started making actual changes), basically added some odd colors in wierd spots
    and a bunch of spelling mistakes. Then, in 4.08 he started adding ansi, including at least one long scroller.. and was still ridden with spelling errors.

    You can actually go in and replace that long scroller with one of the
    older, single-screen/simpler, ANSIs. I did that on one of the games on Moe's.


    i think he took over in 4.06. he then did 4.07 and the last one was 4.08.
    I don't remember the odd colors or spelling mistakes. i think there's some hardcoded parts where there are display issues.

    i prefer the original lordtxt file. btw, anybody can make whatever menus they want. you can do it by hand or there's a utility that will swap it out via command line and you use the marker name in the lordtxt file.

    one of my bbses rotates menus. AND igms.

    He also added in a new registration scheme because someone told gameport there were regcodes in the wild. I'm not a fan of the additions but in his defense he was only adding what people suggested to him.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Wed Jan 1 14:40:28 2025
    Re: Re: Lord 4.08b?
    By: Accession to Dumas Walker on Wed Jan 01 2025 10:54 am

    I just think that after 4.06 more bugs/spelling errors were introduced, is all.. but 4.07+ was a new programmer trying to do new things with it, which I still respect in any regard. It was a shame what Gameport did to Preslar, though (I think he had the rights to work on the source, and they basically
    What they did to him was the same thing comIP did to pcmike. They had a deal and then the money stopped coming in even though he was generating sales.

    Mike Preslar was getting screwed over.

    4.08(last version of lord and a beta) was a fix for dosemu, basically.
    People said 4.08 was a fix for issues with dosemu and os/2.

    few of the beta testers as a "!@#$ you" to Gameport. Eventually, after Preslar disappeared and Gameport got very slow and/or stopped answering emails, it was leaked out to everyone. :)

    nah it wasn't a fuck you to gameport. for some time it was on the main page as a link and then it was a separate webpage. He was just being a good programmer and fixing the last of his problems.

    From what i heard, Preslar had the same problems that everyone had. "who is gameport"? and the lack of communication and the lags in communication. The switching of people you dealt with. For a while it was this shannon (she gave me my old codes), then it was another guy. There was an offer made where bryan turner, jay hodges [thorox , backalley igms] and preslar would buy it and they had a yes. Then no word back and this contact person disappeared.

    then a guy on my irc actually called up multiserv where whoever owns gamport works and he actually got his reg codes that he paid for. Then other people
    got their codes from another guy. There were issues with people registering and not getting their codes. gameport forwarded them to preslar even though it was not his job to handle generating codes and keeping records.

    Whoever runs gameport is certainly an old school nut and he still has tons of webpages that are like 1995 style.

    I heard he still makes money off majormud registrations.
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