• Leaving it up to Dovenet: should "mro" no longer post again

    From Jas Hud@VERT to All on Fri May 31 20:28:42 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet: should "mro" no longer post again
    By: Jas Hud to on Sat May 25 2024 05:09 pm

    1: yes
    2: no

    Interesting thing here.

    i get notifications of when people vote.

    Only daitengu is the person who posts on dovenet.
    All the other guys do not not post on dovenet. Never heard of them, never saw them around on other bbses. I wonder if these are bots that work their way onto bbses.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to JAS HUD on Sat Jun 1 10:20:00 2024
    i get notifications of when people vote.

    That brings up a quasi-related question I have.

    When someone upvotes or downvotes a message, I get a notification when I
    log onto my board and it tells me who voted. I have heard others talk as
    if you can also be reading the message and have a way to list who has voted.

    I am running 3.20 and cannot find that option. Is that an option or did I
    just misunderstand where they are seeing the info?

    I have never tried posting a poll, so I figure that works a little
    different.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Sat Jun 1 10:56:14 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: Dumas Walker to JAS HUD on Sat Jun 01 2024 10:20 am

    When someone upvotes or downvotes a message, I get a notification when I log onto my board and it tells me who voted. I have heard others talk as if you can also be reading the message and have a way to list who has voted.

    Digital Distortion Message Reader has an option (only for sysops) to show the tally information, which will show who voted on it (but currently doesn't show if they made an upvote or downvote).

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Jun 1 14:04:55 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: Dumas Walker to JAS HUD on Sat Jun 01 2024 10:20 am


    When someone upvotes or downvotes a message, I get a notification when I
    log onto my board and it tells me who voted. I have heard others talk as
    if you can also be reading the message and have a way to list who has voted.

    I am running 3.20 and cannot find that option. Is that an option or did

    I
    just misunderstand where they are seeing the info?

    I have never tried posting a poll, so I figure that works a little

    well here is what i get.
    i get those purple notifications that are put in my msg file

    --begin--
    On Sat Jun 01 2024 07:21 am, in DOVE-Net General
    Gamgee (PALANTIR) voted in your poll: Leaving it up to Dovenet: should "mro" no longer post again
    ū yes
    Dumas Walker posted to you on DOVE-Net General
    [Hit a key] >
    ---end----


    i've got the poll pulled up on vert and it says D Delete msg/close poll
    i can't really find stats on it or who voted on what.

    what sucks is only 5 people voted that "mro" should ever post again.
    and i got 3 no.

    i was expecting more total votes since i'm such an aweful person.
    I had a big surprise if a lot of people voted.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to All on Sat Jun 1 10:41:13 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet: should "mro" no longer post again
    By: Jas Hud to on Sat May 25 2024 17:09:51

    He may hurt some feelings but this place would be pretty boring without him andat least he isn't someone's sock puppet like on FIDO.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Jun 1 15:52:52 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet: should "mro" no longer post again
    By: Dumas Walker to All on Sat Jun 01 2024 10:41 am

    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet: should "mro" no longer post again
    By: Jas Hud to on Sat May 25 2024 17:09:51

    He may hurt some feelings but this place would be pretty boring without him andat least he isn't someone's sock puppet like on FIDO.

    i just wish more people voted period.
    crying now
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Jas Hud on Sat Jun 1 16:47:08 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet: should "mro" no longer post again
    By: Jas Hud to All on Fri May 31 2024 08:28 pm

    All the other guys do not not post on dovenet. Never heard of them, never saw them around on other bbses. I wonder if these are bots that work their way onto bbses.

    If it's a bot, it's an purpose-built one I'm sure. I recall there was a bot created (not by me) to specifically down-vote every post by The Millionaire at one time. It was effective in triggering him, but it was a short-lived joke.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Dumas Walker on Sat Jun 1 16:55:44 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: Dumas Walker to JAS HUD on Sat Jun 01 2024 10:20 am

    i get notifications of when people vote.

    That brings up a quasi-related question I have.

    When someone upvotes or downvotes a message, I get a notification when I
    log onto my board and it tells me who voted. I have heard others talk as
    if you can also be reading the message and have a way to list who has voted.

    I am running 3.20 and cannot find that option.

    There's no built-in Synchronet feature/option to list who voted on a message or a poll.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Sat Jun 1 17:42:04 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sat Jun 01 2024 02:04 pm

    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: Dumas Walker to JAS HUD on Sat Jun 01 2024 10:20 am


    When someone upvotes or downvotes a message, I get a notification when I log onto my board and it tells me who voted. I have heard others talk as if you can also be reading the message and have a way to list who has voted.

    I am running 3.20 and cannot find that option. Is that an option or did

    I
    just misunderstand where they are seeing the info?

    I have never tried posting a poll, so I figure that works a little

    well here is what i get.
    i get those purple notifications that are put in my msg file

    --begin--
    On Sat Jun 01 2024 07:21 am, in DOVE-Net General
    Gamgee (PALANTIR) voted in your poll: Leaving it up to Dovenet: should "mro" no longer post again
    ū yes
    Dumas Walker posted to you on DOVE-Net General
    [Hit a key] >
    ---end----


    i've got the poll pulled up on vert and it says D Delete msg/close poll
    i can't really find stats on it or who voted on what.

    When you posted the poll, you had the option of the visibility of the tally/results. You might have to close the poll to see the results, depending on the option you chose.

    what sucks is only 5 people voted that "mro" should ever post again.
    and i got 3 no.

    i was expecting more total votes since i'm such an aweful person.
    I had a big surprise if a lot of people voted.

    Not going to tell us anyway?
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Sat Jun 1 18:12:57 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sat Jun 01 2024 02:04 pm

    i've got the poll pulled up on vert and it says D Delete msg/close poll
    i can't really find stats on it or who voted on what.

    what sucks is only 5 people voted that "mro" should ever post again.
    and i got 3 no.

    Those are stats. And for what it's worth, when I view your poll I see:

    ŚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄśśśś
    ³ Subj: Leaving it up to Dovenet: should "mro" no longer post again ž
    ³ Attr: Replied Poll ±
    ³ From: Jas Hud #604 ±
    ³ Date: Sat May 25 2024 05:09 pm PDT (7.0 days ago) Ü±Ü ĄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄśśśśśś ±± ±±

    1: yes [6 60%]
    2: no [4 40%]
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sat Jun 1 20:01:57 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet: should "mro" no longer post again
    By: Digital Man to Jas Hud on Sat Jun 01 2024 04:47 pm

    If it's a bot, it's an purpose-built one I'm sure. I recall there was a bot created (not by me) to specifically down-vote every post by The Millionaire at one time. It was effective in triggering him, but it was a short-lived joke.

    oh, another one of those "jokes".
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sat Jun 1 20:05:22 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Sat Jun 01 2024 05:42 pm

    When you posted the poll, you had the option of the visibility of the tally/results. You might have to close the poll to see the results, depending on the option you chose.


    I can see what is voted on and when i get notifications on vert it shows me what they voted for.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sat Jun 1 21:12:41 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Sat Jun 01 2024 06:12 pm


    Those are stats. And for what it's worth, when I view your poll I see:

    ŚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄśśśś
    ³ Subj: Leaving it up to Dovenet: should "mro" no longer post again ž
    ³ Attr: Replied Poll ±
    ³ From: Jas Hud #604 ±
    ³ Date: Sat May 25 2024 05:09 pm PDT (7.0 days ago) Ü±Ü ĄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄśśśśśś ±± ±±

    1: yes [6 60%]
    2: no [4 40%]


    yeah that's what i see too. i voted for #1.

    You might want to expand on it and make it more robust. perhaps anonymous voting and maybe save data when it's not. and make it a voting module to be
    used locally on the bbs. I'm not sure if it has that feature, I've never used it and I have it disabled.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Sat Jun 1 19:50:10 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Sat Jun 01 2024 09:12 pm

    You might want to expand on it and make it more robust. perhaps anonymous voting and maybe save data when it's not.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "save data when it's not". The record of who voted how is saved already, it's just not displayed to anyone without extra effort. Voting is already fairly anonymous, though there does need to be a record kept (and it is) and its always possible for a sysop to display that record some way or another (so not truly anonymous).

    and make it a voting module to be
    used locally on the bbs. I'm not sure if it has that feature, I've never used it and I have it disabled.

    There is the "/V" command at the main menu to vote on any polls that you haven't seen/voted on already. But as for a "voting module", Nightfox created one.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sat Jun 1 22:34:54 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Sat Jun 01 2024 07:50 pm

    You might want to expand on it and make it more robust. perhaps anonymous voting and maybe save data when it's not.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "save data when it's not". The record of who voted how is saved already, it's just not displayed to anyone without extra effort. Voting is already fairly anonymous, though there does need to be a record kept (and it is) and its always possible for a sysop to display that record some way or another (so not truly anonymous).

    well when i login to vert i see who voted and what for. so it's not really anonymous in that respect. and when i said save data when it's not, i meant when it's not anonoymous save that data and allow people to look it up. sorry, should have been more specific about it.

    and make it a voting module to be
    used locally on the bbs. I'm not sure if it has that feature, I've never used it and I have it disabled.

    There is the "/V" command at the main menu to vote on any polls that you haven't seen/voted on already. But as for a "voting module", Nightfox created one.

    oh i prefer freevote.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to MRO on Sun Jun 2 09:02:00 2024
    well here is what i get.
    i get those purple notifications that are put in my msg file

    That is what I get also.

    i was expecting more total votes since i'm such an aweful person.

    Yeah, you'd think more folks would vote against someone so repugnant. :D


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to DIGITAL MAN on Sun Jun 2 09:03:00 2024
    There's no built-in Synchronet feature/option to list who voted on a message or
    a poll.

    Yeah, I think I misunderstood. When people mention seeing the votes they
    are seeing the notifications when they first log on, just like I see now.

    Thanks!


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sun Jun 2 15:44:18 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Jun 02 2024 09:02 am


    i was expecting more total votes since i'm such an aweful person.

    Yeah, you'd think more folks would vote against someone so repugnant. :D


    yeah since i make everyone quit bbsing.
    instead it's just 4 shit dicks.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Sun Jun 2 15:18:36 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Sat Jun 01 2024 10:34 pm

    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Sat Jun 01 2024 07:50 pm

    You might want to expand on it and make it more robust. perhaps anonymous voting and maybe save data when it's not.

    I'm not sure what you mean by "save data when it's not". The record of who voted how is saved already, it's just not displayed to anyone without extra effort. Voting is already fairly anonymous, though there does need to be a record kept (and it is) and its always possible for a sysop to display that record some way or another (so not truly anonymous).

    well when i login to vert i see who voted and what for. so it's not really anonymous in that respect. and when i said save data when it's not, i meant when it's not anonoymous save that data and allow people to look it up. sorry, should have been more specific about it.

    Right, it was never really intended to be anonymous.

    and make it a voting module to be
    used locally on the bbs. I'm not sure if it has that feature, I've never used it and I have it disabled.

    There is the "/V" command at the main menu to vote on any polls that you haven't seen/voted on already. But as for a "voting module", Nightfox created one.

    oh i prefer freevote.

    I don't think freevote distributes polls across a network, does it?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Sun Jun 2 18:56:23 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Sun Jun 02 2024 03:18 pm

    and make it a voting module to be
    used locally on the bbs. I'm not sure if it has that feature, I've never used it and I have it disabled.

    There is the "/V" command at the main menu to vote on any polls that you haven't seen/voted on already. But as for a "voting module", Nightfox created one.

    oh i prefer freevote.

    I don't think freevote distributes polls across a network, does it?

    no, it doesn't. i was talking about local voting.
    I've always had voting to see how the users would like changes. back when there were users!
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Mon Jun 3 11:06:27 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Sun Jun 02 2024 06:56 pm

    and make it a voting module to be
    used locally on the bbs. I'm not sure if it has that feature, I've never used it and I have it disabled.

    There is the "/V" command at the main menu to vote on any polls that you haven't seen/voted on already. But as for a "voting module", Nightfox created one.

    oh i prefer freevote.

    I don't think freevote distributes polls across a network, does it?

    no, it doesn't. i was talking about local voting.

    I'm not sure why you're comparing SlyVote to Freevote then. The whole point of Synchronet's QWK voting is that it's network-distributed.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Mon Jun 3 15:48:32 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Mon Jun 03 2024 11:06 am

    and make it a voting module to be
    used locally on the bbs. I'm not sure if it has that feature,


    I'm not sure why you're comparing SlyVote to Freevote then. The whole point of Synchronet's QWK voting is that it's network-distributed.


    i dont know much about the voting, i've never really been a fan of it.

    if you look above i made a req for it to be used locally on the bbs.
    I dont know if 'slyvote' is the same as your qwk voting or if those are two different things.

    I was just throwing out my crummy ideas.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Mon Jun 3 15:15:31 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Mon Jun 03 2024 03:48 pm

    i dont know much about the voting, i've never really been a fan of it.

    if you look above i made a req for it to be used locally on the bbs.

    If you want local voting with Synchronet, you could just allow voting/polls in a local sub-board.

    I dont know if 'slyvote' is the same as your qwk voting or if those are two different things.

    SlyVote is a voting booth door in JS for Synchronet that displays polls & their results and allows users to vote on them, as well as post new polls.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Mon Jun 3 16:16:51 2024
    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Mon Jun 03 2024 03:48 pm

    Re: Leaving it up to Dovenet:
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Mon Jun 03 2024 11:06 am

    and make it a voting module to be
    used locally on the bbs. I'm not sure if it has that feature,


    I'm not sure why you're comparing SlyVote to Freevote then. The whole point of Synchronet's QWK voting is that it's network-distributed.


    i dont know much about the voting, i've never really been a fan of it.

    if you look above i made a req for it to be used locally on the bbs.
    I dont know if 'slyvote' is the same as your qwk voting or if those are two different things.

    It's really SMB-voting with QWKnet extensions to make it work over DOVE-Net (or any other QWK network). Doesn't work over other network types (NNTP, Fido, etc.).

    SlyVote uses the same poll/vote storage methods (exposed in the MsgBase class of Sync-JS), but has a more traditional "voting booth door" interface.

    I was just throwing out my crummy ideas.

    The SMB-voting *can* be used for a local-only voting: by posting a poll to a local (not networked) message base, that poll is by definition, local on the BBS.
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