• Conversion from Windows To Linux..

    From Al Derosa@VERT to All on Sat Oct 29 21:14:38 2022
    Is there an easy way to convert a Windows Synchro to Linux (Debian) system? I tried the migration set up by copying the CTRL DATA NODE1 and MODS and XTRN directories, but had some issues with errors popping up.. I started from scratch and got just about everything copied re-configured and have all the messages, files, users etc copied but now the BBS stats are not showing (total calls, etc.) Any simple ways??

    Al
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Al Derosa on Sat Oct 29 20:42:36 2022
    Re: Conversion from Windows To Linux..
    By: Al Derosa to All on Sat Oct 29 2022 09:14 pm

    Is there an easy way to convert a Windows Synchro to Linux (Debian) system? I tried the migration set up by copying the CTRL DATA NODE1 and MODS and XTRN directories, but had some issues with errors popping up..

    What errors?

    I started
    from scratch and got just about everything copied re-configured and have all the messages, files, users etc copied but now the BBS stats are not showing (total calls, etc.) Any simple ways??

    The stats are stored in ctrl/csts.* and ctrl/dsts.*, make sure you copied those files over. If you care about the node statistics, you'll need to copy those same files from the node directories.
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  • From Al Derosa@VERT to Digital Man on Sun Oct 30 00:08:40 2022
    Re: Conversion from Windows To Linux..
    By: Al Derosa to All on Sat Oct 29 2022 09:14 pm
    system? I tried the migration set up by copying the CTRL DATA NODE1
    and MODS and XTRN directories, but had some issues with errors popping
    up..

    What errors?

    Not necessarily errors, but binding issues, I watched your video and start it with sudo and it switches over to the sbbs user automatically like it is supposed to, but when I copied those directories over the previous directories it wouldn't switch anymore. Now that I think about it, I am thinking it might have been priveledge issues.. I have a backup of it I might try that again..


    The stats are stored in ctrl/csts.* and ctrl/dsts.*, make sure you copied those files over. If you care about the node statistics, you'll need to copy those same files from the node directories.
    copy those same files from the node directories.

    Cool, I will do that, I think that is the only thing holding it back now. Appreciate the help.

    Al
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Al Derosa on Sun Oct 30 11:50:45 2022
    Re: Conversion from Windows To Linux..
    By: Al Derosa to Digital Man on Sun Oct 30 2022 12:08 am

    Re: Conversion from Windows To Linux..
    By: Al Derosa to All on Sat Oct 29 2022 09:14 pm
    system? I tried the migration set up by copying the CTRL DATA NODE1
    and MODS and XTRN directories, but had some issues with errors popping
    up..

    What errors?

    Not necessarily errors, but binding issues, I watched your video and start it with sudo and it switches over to the sbbs user automatically like it is supposed to, but when I copied those directories over the previous directories it wouldn't switch anymore. Now that I think about it, I am thinking it might have been priveledge issues.. I have a backup of it I might try that again..

    You can resolve port binding issues on *nix, a number of ways: https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:linux_non-root

    This is not really relavent to the migration of your configuration or data from a Windows install however.

    The stats are stored in ctrl/csts.* and ctrl/dsts.*, make sure you copied those files over. If you care about the node statistics, you'll need to copy those same files from the node directories.
    copy those same files from the node directories.

    Cool, I will do that, I think that is the only thing holding it back now. Appreciate the help.

    Sure.
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  • From Phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Al Derosa on Sun Oct 30 11:39:30 2022
    Re: Conversion from Windows To Linux..
    By: Al Derosa to Digital Man on Sun Oct 30 2022 12:08 am
    supposed to, but when I copied those
    directories over the previous
    directories it wouldn't switch anymo
    Now that I think about it, I am
    thinking it might have been priveled
    issues.. I have a backup of it I mig

    Just an idea about making and restoring
    backups.. If you just 'cp', you change
    all the permissions and timestamps and
    other metadata.. if you 'cp -p' you can
    preserve some of that, but some stuff
    technically changes if you're using
    SELinux and whatnot... but if you use
    'tar' to back up and then untar into
    place (as root, of course), you should
    get all perms and ownerships and
    timestamps as the originals.

    Oops, and I just noticed you were
    copying over from Windows, so none of
    this applies :D... Still keeping the
    post as a suggestion for future
    backups.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Phigan on Sun Oct 30 16:22:52 2022
    Re: Conversion from Windows To Lin
    By: Phigan to Al Derosa on Sun Oct 30 2022 11:39 am

    Oops, and I just noticed you were copying over from Windows, so none of this applies :D... Still keeping the post as a suggestion for future backups.


    hey i think you are lost.

    these are sysops. nobody fucking backs up.

    I have heard "lost it in a hard drive crash" 1 million times.

    I provide bbs hosting and setup automatic backups. nobody downloads their
    bbs backups EVER.
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  • From Al Derosa@VERT to MRO on Sun Oct 30 18:44:05 2022
    Re: Conversion from Windows To Lin


    hey i think you are lost.

    these are sysops. nobody fucking backs up.

    I have heard "lost it in a hard drive crash" 1 million times.

    I provide bbs hosting and setup automatic backups. nobody downloads their bbs backups EVER.


    LOL I just might use that as an excuse here. Restart the BBS from scratch in Linux and say I had a hard drive crash.. Would solve any and all I am doing.. LOL
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Al Derosa on Sun Oct 30 22:30:12 2022
    Re: Conversion from Windows To Lin
    By: Al Derosa to MRO on Sun Oct 30 2022 06:44 pm


    LOL I just might use that as an excuse here. Restart the BBS from scratch in Linux and say I had a hard drive crash.. Would solve any and all I am doing.. LOL

    just save the important files and copy it over.

    you'll have to do dosemu for the games, though
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  • From Phantomrage@VERT/PRS to MRO on Sun Oct 30 22:42:34 2022
    these are sysops. nobody fucking backs up.


    I'm working on restoring my system I used to run from the many backups I had made when I ran that system. All my data that is critical is backed up automatically and to a off site location, as I live in a forest that California likes to constantly burn down.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Mon Oct 31 07:50:42 2022
    Re: Conversion from Windows To Lin
    By: MRO to Phigan on Sun Oct 30 2022 04:22 pm

    Re: Conversion from Windows To Lin
    By: Phigan to Al Derosa on Sun Oct 30 2022 11:39 am

    Oops, and I just noticed you were copying over from Windows, so none of this applies :D... Still keeping the post as a suggestion for future backups.

    these are sysops. nobody fucking backs up.

    I would believe that an idiot such as you wouldn't...

    My system is automatically backed up in the wee hours of the morning, every day, to two places. One place is a local server here, and the other place is a VPS in the cloud. Additionally I do a complete disk clone to yet another local location every now and then, manually, about once a month. Oh, and I have copies of ALL customized files on yet another local machine (laptop).

    So...... pfffttttt.

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  • From Al Derosa@VERT to MRO on Mon Oct 31 18:12:27 2022
    Re: Conversion from Windows To Lin
    By: Al Derosa to MRO on Sun Oct 30 2022 06:44 pm

    just save the important files and copy it over.

    you'll have to do dosemu for the games, though
    Actually, only games I have on the system are the Synchro Games, the rest are on a Door Server of Synchro which runs on Windows.. My 3 boards take advantage of the same game listings. Works out well as I only have to install once..

    Al
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Al Derosa on Mon Oct 31 18:19:13 2022
    Re: Conversion from Windows To Lin
    By: Al Derosa to MRO on Mon Oct 31 2022 06:12 pm

    you'll have to do dosemu for the games, though
    Actually, only games I have on the system are the Synchro Games, the rest are on a Door Server of Synchro which runs on Windows.. My 3 boards take advantage of the same game listings. Works out well as I only have to install once..


    it would be nice if synchronet had a doorgame repo function where it just installed the popular doorgames if you selected it.
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  • From Al DeRosa@VERT to MRO on Mon Oct 31 20:37:56 2022
    On 31 Oct 2022, MRO said the following...



    it would be nice if synchronet had a doorgame repo function where it just installed the popular doorgames if you selected it.
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    It would be, but what is the fun in that?!?! LOL Installing these games makes for some hair pulling, and time that you will never get back... LOL

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Mon Oct 31 20:08:50 2022
    Re: Conversion from Windows To Lin
    By: MRO to Al Derosa on Mon Oct 31 2022 06:19 pm

    Re: Conversion from Windows To Lin
    By: Al Derosa to MRO on Mon Oct 31 2022 06:12 pm

    you'll have to do dosemu for the games, though
    Actually, only games I have on the system are the Synchro Games, the rest are on a Door Server of Synchro which runs on Windows.. My 3 boards take advantage of the same game listings. Works out well as I only have to install once..


    it would be nice if synchronet had a doorgame repo function where it just installed the popular doorgames if you selected it.

    Synchronet alredy has that feature: http://wiki.synchro.net/module:install-xtrn --
    digital man (rob)

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Al DeRosa on Tue Nov 1 00:15:58 2022
    Re: Re: Conversion from Windows To Lin
    By: Al DeRosa to MRO on Mon Oct 31 2022 08:37 pm

    it would be nice if synchronet had a doorgame repo function where it just installed the popular doorgames if you selected it.
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    It would be, but what is the fun in that?!?! LOL Installing these games makes for some hair pulling, and time that you will never get back... LOL


    yeah i know. that's why i never did it.

    There's still a guy that is running my own tg bbs after like 7 years because I put it in my file bases as an example. people were supposed to look at the scripts and learn from it. instead he said 'this is exactly like my bbs that i used to run!', and ran it.

    also doorgames aren't that hard to run.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Tue Nov 1 00:21:04 2022
    Re: Conversion from Windows To Lin
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Mon Oct 31 2022 08:08 pm

    it would be nice if synchronet had a doorgame repo function where it just installed the popular doorgames if you selected it.

    Synchronet alredy has that feature: http://wiki.synchro.net/module:install-xtrn


    this is all i see:

    install-xtrn.js v3.18c
    1: C:\sbbs\xtrn\bublbogl/
    2: C:\sbbs\xtrn\bullshit/
    3: C:\sbbs\xtrn\chickendelivery/
    4: C:\sbbs\xtrn\dicewarz/
    5: C:\sbbs\xtrn\dicewarz2/
    6: C:\sbbs\xtrn\dpoker/
    7: C:\sbbs\xtrn\druglord/
    8: C:\sbbs\xtrn\go-for/
    9: C:\sbbs\xtrn\gooble/
    10: C:\sbbs\xtrn\hamtest/
    11: C:\sbbs\xtrn\jeopardized/
    12: C:\sbbs\xtrn\knk/
    13: C:\sbbs\xtrn\lemons/
    14: C:\sbbs\xtrn\maze/
    15: C:\sbbs\xtrn\starstocks/
    16: C:\sbbs\xtrn\startrek/
    17: C:\sbbs\xtrn\synchronetris/
    18: C:\sbbs\xtrn\syncwall/
    19: C:\sbbs\xtrn\synkroban/
    20: C:\sbbs\xtrn\thirsty/
    21: C:\sbbs\xtrn\uberblox/
    22: C:\sbbs\xtrn\war/


    is this an old version i have? is there an option to install lord, usurper, mechwars, deathmasters, globalwar, tradewars2002 scrabble, etc?

    i know there was an option to install those scripts, but i meant the popular games that users want.

    but now that i think about it, it would be a bad idea because that would be yet another easy thing. maybe just a feature for the sysop to FETCH the popular doors and then they can config them themselves.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Tue Nov 1 11:12:25 2022
    Re: Conversion from Windows To Lin
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Tue Nov 01 2022 12:21 am

    Re: Conversion from Windows To Lin
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Mon Oct 31 2022 08:08 pm

    it would be nice if synchronet had a doorgame repo function where it just installed the popular doorgames if you selected it.

    Synchronet alredy has that feature: http://wiki.synchro.net/module:install-xtrn


    this is all i see:

    install-xtrn.js v3.18c
    1: C:\sbbs\xtrn\bublbogl/
    2: C:\sbbs\xtrn\bullshit/
    3: C:\sbbs\xtrn\chickendelivery/
    4: C:\sbbs\xtrn\dicewarz/
    5: C:\sbbs\xtrn\dicewarz2/
    6: C:\sbbs\xtrn\dpoker/
    7: C:\sbbs\xtrn\druglord/
    8: C:\sbbs\xtrn\go-for/
    9: C:\sbbs\xtrn\gooble/
    10: C:\sbbs\xtrn\hamtest/
    11: C:\sbbs\xtrn\jeopardized/
    12: C:\sbbs\xtrn\knk/
    13: C:\sbbs\xtrn\lemons/
    14: C:\sbbs\xtrn\maze/
    15: C:\sbbs\xtrn\starstocks/
    16: C:\sbbs\xtrn\startrek/
    17: C:\sbbs\xtrn\synchronetris/
    18: C:\sbbs\xtrn\syncwall/
    19: C:\sbbs\xtrn\synkroban/
    20: C:\sbbs\xtrn\thirsty/
    21: C:\sbbs\xtrn\uberblox/
    22: C:\sbbs\xtrn\war/

    Because those are the doors you physically copied/extracted already. There are 159 total 3rd-party doors already supported (see xtrn/3rdp-install/*.ini).

    is this an old version i have?

    No, that looks like the latest.

    is there an option to install lord, usurper,
    mechwars, deathmasters, globalwar, tradewars2002 scrabble, etc?

    If not, they can be added.

    i know there was an option to install those scripts, but i meant the popular games that users want.

    but now that i think about it, it would be a bad idea because that would be yet another easy thing. maybe just a feature for the sysop to FETCH the popular doors and then they can config them themselves.

    <shrug>
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Tue Nov 1 21:07:39 2022
    Re: Conversion from Windows To Lin
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Tue Nov 01 2022 11:12 am

    22: C:\sbbs\xtrn\war/

    Because those are the doors you physically copied/extracted already. There are 159 total 3rd-party doors already supported (see xtrn/3rdp-install/*.ini).

    okay i thought that all that could be installed is whats pulled up on install-xtrn.js

    you might want to have the doorgames hosted someplace, then have the script download them and unzip them and run the setup for the sysop if it's needed.

    I don't really see many people using this for those other doorgames unless some complications are removed.
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  • From Phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Al Derosa on Tue Nov 1 19:40:42 2022
    Re: Conversion from Windows To Lin
    By: Al Derosa to MRO on Mon Oct 31 2022 06:12 pm

    are on a Door Server of Synchro whic
    runs on Windows.. My 3 boards take

    Can others connect to that?

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  • From Al DeRosa@VERT to Phigan on Wed Nov 2 18:01:48 2022
    On 01 Nov 2022, Phigan said the following...


    Can others connect to that?


    Yes, just send me a email at bucko@wrgnbr.com and I will let you know how to get going.. :)

    Al

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