On 3/13/2022 1:56 PM, the doctor wrote:

--- DIGITAL MAN wrote ---

Interesting. Where's the short story?

I had it, very briefly, on my website, but the xyl who was one of the subjects objected, and I don't blame her, so I took it down.

It was funny to me, but I wasn't a main character. It was pretty nasty
to her, and to Mike Donnelly (author of Gilder...)

I've got it someplace. If I find it I'll send you a copy via email.

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The Doctor,

Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

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Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

Why does it matter?

- Andre

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Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Andre to dragon on Sat Mar 19 2022 08:22 pm

Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

Why does it matter?

It dosen't he's just being obnoxious.

... Guns don't kill people. Bullets kill people.

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Re: Re: BBSlist
By: dragon to the doctor on Sat Mar 19 2022 08:28 pm

The Doctor,

Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

you can make a new thread or send him private mail, ya know.

syncdata isnt meant to be read by humans.
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It dosen't he's just being obnoxious.

I'm not following. Who cares if he posts to syncdata fifty times a day?


- Andre

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On 3/20/2022 1:34 AM, Denn wrote:

Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Andre to dragon on Sat Mar 19 2022 08:22 pm

>> Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

An> Why does it matter?

It dosen't he's just being obnoxious.

... Guns don't kill people. Bullets kill people.

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Wow. A simple question greeted with mild hostility.

I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.

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I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.

As you can see, people didn't read it as a real question... They read it as passively aggressively saying that you don't want him to post there so often.

MRO is right. Syncdata is for inter-bbs communication. It's for tools to communicate, not really for people.

So the expectation would be to use something like the synclist door and sort by created or updated. I mean, you can do what you want, but unless it's
breaking something technically, there's nothing wrong with posting data to
that sub at a pace that human user wouldn't like to read.


- Andre

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Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: dragon to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 01:50 pm

Wow. A simple question greeted with mild hostility.

I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.

that's kinda stupid when you can just use this http://synchro.net/Synchronet/syncterm.lst


i'm assuming you are grabbing the entries for your site?
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Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: MRO to dragon on Sun Mar 20 2022 05:20 pm

Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: dragon to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 01:50 pm

Wow. A simple question greeted with mild hostility.

I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.

that's kinda stupid when you can just use this http://synchro.net/Synchronet/syncterm.lst

i'm assuming you are grabbing the entries for your site?

or even better, http://synchro.net/Synchronet/sbbslist.json (contains a lot more detail about each BBS entry)
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Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Andre to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 09:10 am

It dosen't he's just being obnoxious.

I'm not following. Who cares if he posts to syncdata fifty times a day?

I agree. Syncdata is meant for transferring data for Synchronet and related things, and isn't meant for humans to read. Things should be able to post in there as much as needed. I wouldn't normally see it anyway.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Andre to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 09:10 am

It dosen't he's just being obnoxious.

I'm not following. Who cares if he posts to syncdata fifty times a day?

Nightfox is probably the only one that freaks out over this.


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Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: dragon to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 01:50 pm

Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

Why does it matter?

It dosen't he's just being obnoxious.

... Guns don't kill people. Bullets kill people.

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Wow. A simple question greeted with mild hostility.

I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.

Sorry, I'm not trying to be hostile, Nightfox just has a way of being a bit of a scold, reminds me a little of Greta Thunberg.

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Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Denn to Andre on Sun Mar 20 2022 06:46 pm

I'm not following. Who cares if he posts to syncdata fifty times a
day?

Nightfox is probably the only one that freaks out over this.

Huh? I've never noticed how many times anyone posts in syncdata (and it doesn't bother me) I don't look at that sub and I have it disabled in my newscan. I'm not sure where you got this idea that I'd be freaked out about it..? Unless you've randomly decided to troll me?

Nightfox

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Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: Denn to dragon on Sun Mar 20 2022 06:52 pm

Sorry, I'm not trying to be hostile, Nightfox just has a way of being a bit of a scold, reminds me a little of Greta Thunberg.

Scold?

Nightfox

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On 3/20/2022 3:44 PM, Andre wrote:

I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.

As you can see, people didn't read it as a real question... They read it as passively aggressively saying that you don't want him to post there so often.

MRO is right. Syncdata is for inter-bbs communication. It's for tools to communicate, not really for people.

So the expectation would be to use something like the synclist door and sort by
created or updated. I mean, you can do what you want, but unless it's breaking something technically, there's nothing wrong with posting data to that sub at a pace that human user wouldn't like to read.

- Andre

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I just thought it was weird that this BBS posted so often. I retract
the question.

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On 3/20/2022 7:04 PM, Digital Man wrote:

Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: MRO to dragon on Sun Mar 20 2022 05:20 pm

> Re: SYNCDATA Posting
> By: dragon to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 01:50 pm
>
>
> > Wow. A simple question greeted with mild hostility.
>
> > I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.
>
> that's kinda stupid when you can just use this
> http://synchro.net/Synchronet/syncterm.lst
>
>
> i'm assuming you are grabbing the entries for your site?

or even better, http://synchro.net/Synchronet/sbbslist.json (contains a lot more detail about each BBS entry)

Those are great options, but I find it easier to just scroll through the messages in SYNCDATA with a newsreader looking for new posts.

I have scripts to automate things, I just enjoy "discovering" new sites
more manually as well.

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Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: dragon to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 13:50:48

Wow. A simple question greeted with mild hostility.

The wording maybe didn't come off the way you intended. Looked more like a complaint than a simple question.

I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.

Explaining this up front might have helped.

Reading SYNCDATA directly with your eyeballs is not recommended, and it's not reasonable to ask anybody to keep human readers in mind when posting there.

If the BBS lister that you're using doesn't have a "new listings since x date" feature, perhaps one could be added. That's much more in line with how the sub and its contents are meant to be used.

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Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: Nightfox to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 19:19:03

Sorry, I'm not trying to be hostile, Nightfox just has a way of
being a bit of a scold, reminds me a little of Greta Thunberg.

Scold?

See, this is what I mean when I say you're artistic. Where other people see a scold, you see only passionate creative expression.

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--- DRAGON wrote ---
On 3/13/2022 1:56 PM, the doctor wrote:

The Doctor,

Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

No, not really. I'll fix it...


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--- ANDRE wrote ---

Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

Why does it matter?

Shrug. I don't know.

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Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: Digital Man to MRO on Sun Mar 20 2022 04:04 pm

I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.

that's kinda stupid when you can just use this http://synchro.net/Synchronet/syncterm.lst

i'm assuming you are grabbing the entries for your site?

or even better, http://synchro.net/Synchronet/sbbslist.json (contains a lot more detail about each BBS entry)

yeah that's nice that the preview is coded in there.
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Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Nightfox to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 07:18 pm

Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Denn to Andre on Sun Mar 20 2022 06:46 pm

I'm not following. Who cares if he posts to syncdata fifty times a
day?

Nightfox is probably the only one that freaks out over this.

Huh? I've never noticed how many times anyone posts in syncdata (and it doesn't bother me) I don't look at that sub and I have it disabled in my newscan. I'm not sure where you got this idea that I'd be freaked out about it..? Unless you've randomly decided to troll me?

yeah i have mine turned off for users. it's not meant for human consumption, like i said.
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Re: Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: dragon to Digital Man on Sun Mar 20 2022 10:07 pm

Those are great options, but I find it easier to just scroll through the messages in SYNCDATA with a newsreader looking for new posts.

I have scripts to automate things, I just enjoy "discovering" new sites
more manually as well.

well i dont think you can complain though, because it's a non human area.
that area isnt even listed on vert for humans.

i'd complain if he was adding a lot of FILESIZE to the area. like he was
using it for file sharing and distribution.
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Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: echicken to Nightfox on Mon Mar 21 2022 04:22 am

Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: Nightfox to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 19:19:03

Sorry, I'm not trying to be hostile, Nightfox just has a way of
being a bit of a scold, reminds me a little of Greta Thunberg.

Scold?

See, this is what I mean when I say you're artistic. Where other people see a scold, you see only passionate creative expression.

i thought i did all the scolding
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Re: Re: BBSlist
By: the doctor to DRAGON on Mon Mar 21 2022 09:03 am

--- DRAGON wrote ---
On 3/13/2022 1:56 PM, the doctor wrote:

The Doctor,

Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

No, not really. I'll fix it...

so you are posting every single day to the list, right?
that is a lot, though. are you trying to get on the synchronet bbs list
by scripting that?
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--- MRO wrote ---
well i dont think you can complain though, because it's a non human area. that area isnt even listed on vert for humans.

i'd complain if he was adding a lot of FILESIZE to the area. like he was using it for file sharing and distribution.

It was actually because I changed the format the BBS uses to JSON. I
was debugging that so it sent a message everytime the software started,
and it did that a lot because I was debugging it.

It should only send one message a night now at maint. time. I hope that's
not too many... (:

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--- MRO wrote ---
so you are posting every single day to the list, right?
that is a lot, though. are you trying to get on the synchronet bbs list
by scripting that?

Well, yes. I'm not trying to do that to get on the list... I could do
that by going back to my old ways (that no one ever complained about)
of spoofing that I was Synchronet.

It's simply that I'm lazy... my software runs maintenance tasks once a
night. I could write a proper scheduler I suppose, if that will make
folks happier.

Any opinions on just how often it should run?

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Re: Re: BBSlist
By: the doctor to MRO on Mon Mar 21 2022 12:41 pm

--- MRO wrote ---
so you are posting every single day to the list, right?
that is a lot, though. are you trying to get on the synchronet bbs list by scripting that?

Well, yes. I'm not trying to do that to get on the list... I could do
that by going back to my old ways (that no one ever complained about)
of spoofing that I was Synchronet.

Well, that is a bbs list for synchronet bbses. you really shouldn't put yourself on that website list of synchronet bbses. there's other lists out there. you're just being deceptive and i think it's just wrong to do that or think of doing that.

i see there's other systems on there that are non synchronet. if i were running the list i'd make their entries a separate link.

your bbs is unique and you should work that angle.
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--- MRO wrote ---
Re: Re: BBSlist

Well, that is a bbs list for synchronet bbses. you really shouldn't put yourself on that website list of synchronet bbses. there's other lists
out there. you're just being deceptive and i think it's just wrong to do that or think of doing that.

Yeah. I talked to DM on here just the other day, and he said that the
web based list is for Synchronet Only... so i don't appear on it. That's
fair enough and his call... and I'm no longer pretending to be one.

He also said it was fine for me to send the messages, and I would appear
on the BBS based list, which I do. I also have a BBS based list (with previews) and I don't limit it to QBBS only. (:

i see there's other systems on there that are non synchronet. if i were
running the list i'd make their entries a separate link.

your bbs is unique and you should work that angle.

Thanks for saying. I agree with you, btw. (:

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On 3/21/2022 5:19 AM, echicken wrote:

Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: dragon to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 13:50:48

dr> Wow. A simple question greeted with mild hostility.

The wording maybe didn't come off the way you intended. Looked more like a complaint than a simple question.

dr> I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.

Explaining this up front might have helped.

Reading SYNCDATA directly with your eyeballs is not recommended, and it's not reasonable to ask anybody to keep human readers in mind when posting there.

If the BBS lister that you're using doesn't have a "new listings since x date" feature, perhaps one could be added. That's much more in line with how the sub and its contents are meant to be used.

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Folks sure are reading a lot of stuff in my original message that
doesn't actually appear on the page. I'll try to be more careful in the future.

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Re: Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: dragon to echicken on Mon Mar 21 2022 03:21 pm

Folks sure are reading a lot of stuff in my original message that
doesn't actually appear on the page. I'll try to be more careful in the future.

You know that old saying, "It's not me with the problem, it's everyone else?"

There's something about the way that you wrote it. Written words have no tone. Just add a smiley to the end of everything and then you're fine.


- Andre

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Re: Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: Andre to dragon on Mon Mar 21 2022 05:28 pm

Re: Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: dragon to echicken on Mon Mar 21 2022 03:21 pm

Folks sure are reading a lot of stuff in my original message that doesn't actually appear on the page. I'll try to be more careful in the future.

You know that old saying, "It's not me with the problem, it's everyone else?"

There's something about the way that you wrote it. Written words have no tone. Just add a smiley to the end of everything and then you're fine.

Hey, that's my trick! :-)
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Re: Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: Digital Man to Andre on Mon Mar 21 2022 04:41 pm

no tone. Just add a smiley to the end of everything and then you're

Hey, that's my trick! :-)

I was thinking of you when I wrote it. :)


- Andre

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Re: Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: dragon to echicken on Mon Mar 21 2022 03:21 pm

dr> Wow. A simple question greeted with mild hostility.

The wording maybe didn't come off the way you intended. Looked more like a complaint than a simple question.

dr> I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.

Explaining this up front might have helped.

Reading SYNCDATA directly with your eyeballs is not recommended, and it's not reasonable to ask anybody to keep human readers in mind when posting there.

If the BBS lister that you're using doesn't have a "new listings since x date" feature, perhaps one could be added. That's much more in line with how the sub and its contents are meant to be used.

Folks sure are reading a lot of stuff in my original message that
doesn't actually appear on the page. I'll try to be more careful in the future.

well you say you are reading it. we say it's not for people to read.
i enabled it for myself and i dont know how you could stand that crap.
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