• Series reboots

    From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Mon Aug 15 08:41:00 2022
    Re: Series reboots
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Aug 14 2022 11:19 pm

    Re: Series reboots
    By: Moondog to MRO on Sun Aug 14 2022 10:53 pm

    IIRC that movie is credited with killing C Thomas Howell's mainstream mov career. He has done well making his occasional appearances and "mockbust

    i don't think anybody credited it with killing his movie career.
    it didnt hurt the writer at all.

    he was a good actor and it was a commercial success. it made 35 million on look up his imdb. dude has been working a LOT. bad movies, ok movies, lots o

    he also has a ruptured appendix in the early 2000's and they had to take ou

    I totally agree he has done alot with his career. I'm implying he had the potential of way more before that movie "blacklisted" him from projects his fellow Brat Packers made their fame on. It's not his fault. As stated, the movie did fine. It is like an early form of the cancel culture stepped in
    and decided his life for him.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Mon Aug 15 08:48:00 2022
    Re: Series reboots
    By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Aug 14 2022 11:20 pm

    Re: Series reboots
    By: Moondog to Phigan on Sun Aug 14 2022 10:56 pm


    lol. I sort of remember that series. Wasn't it like a Dirty Harry style cop comedy? i recall a Robocop parody where they turned him into "Hammeroid"

    i still say "I prefer to get my information from more reliable sources like

    IIRC that was an ABC network comedy. They tended to take more chances on the more silly, slapstick type of comedy. CBS evolved into the network that
    showed mysteries and whodunnits starring older performers. NBC was more of
    the middle aged crowd between the two.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Mon Aug 15 11:42:07 2022
    Re: Series reboots
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Aug 15 2022 08:41 am

    I totally agree he has done alot with his career. I'm implying he had the potential of way more before that movie "blacklisted" him from projects his fellow Brat Packers made their fame on. It's not his fault. As stated, the movie did fine. It is like an early form of the cancel culture stepped in and decided his life for him.

    no i dont think he got blacklisted or canceled.
    he also wasn't part of that brat pack.

    he had a few good movies but then he ended up changing course.
    He's still getting work and he's not broke so I think he's fine with how he's doing.

    that movie made a lot of money and nobody got buried because of it. it was a silly 80s movie.

    times are different now. you can get fired for calling a woman 'she'.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Mon Aug 15 11:48:23 2022
    Re: Series reboots
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Aug 15 2022 08:48 am

    i still say "I prefer to get my information from more reliable sources like

    IIRC that was an ABC network comedy. They tended to take more chances on the more silly, slapstick type of comedy. CBS evolved into the network that

    i think hbo or something got them first, but it was a bad deal for the creators, so he got into a fight with them on purpose to get them to reject the deal.

    When they got booted, they took it to ABC. sledgehammer was a fish out of water during that time and on that network.there were poor shows before and after SH, and later on they put him up against cosby and cosby had that time slot back then. COS was huge.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Tue Aug 16 00:39:00 2022
    Re: Series reboots
    By: MRO to Moondog on Mon Aug 15 2022 11:42 am

    Re: Series reboots
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Aug 15 2022 08:41 am

    I totally agree he has done alot with his career. I'm implying he had th potential of way more before that movie "blacklisted" him from projects h fellow Brat Packers made their fame on. It's not his fault. As stated, movie did fine. It is like an early form of the cancel culture stepped i and decided his life for him.

    no i dont think he got blacklisted or canceled.
    he also wasn't part of that brat pack.

    he had a few good movies but then he ended up changing course.
    He's still getting work and he's not broke so I think he's fine with how he'

    that movie made a lot of money and nobody got buried because of it. it was

    times are different now. you can get fired for calling a woman 'she'.


    CTH was part of the Brat Pack. He fell into the age group and did several films with the likes of Patrick Swayze, Charlie Sheen, Emilio Estavez, Ralph Maccio, and several others. Two good examples are Red Dawn and the
    Outsiders.

    Regarding his career, I didn't say his career was crap. He has done well. H
    e could've done better if he didn't do Soul Man.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Tue Aug 16 00:48:00 2022
    Re: Series reboots
    By: MRO to Moondog on Mon Aug 15 2022 11:48 am

    Re: Series reboots
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Aug 15 2022 08:48 am

    i still say "I prefer to get my information from more reliable sources like

    IIRC that was an ABC network comedy. They tended to take more chances on the more silly, slapstick type of comedy. CBS evolved into the network t

    i think hbo or something got them first, but it was a bad deal for the creat

    When they got booted, they took it to ABC. sledgehammer was a fish out of w huge.


    It was always ABC. HBO only showed movies back then. The original series programming came later.

    A bit of trivia - even though the first episode established the show is supposed to take place in San Fransisco, the city did not want anything to do with it, and references to the city were edited out.

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  • From Phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to MRO on Tue Aug 16 07:37:41 2022
    Re: Series reboots
    By: MRO to Phigan on Sun Aug 14 2022 02:35 pm

    i think a reboot of sledgehammer wouldn't work out. it was a real light and satirical show, it was so stupid it was smart. i don't think anybody can do

    Yeah when I started thinking about it, I realized it would be pretty tough. Especially with the "climate" we're in these days. But I bet someone really smart could pull it off.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Tue Aug 16 11:52:11 2022
    Re: Series reboots
    By: Moondog to MRO on Tue Aug 16 2022 12:39 am


    CTH was part of the Brat Pack. He fell into the age group and did several films with the likes of Patrick Swayze, Charlie Sheen, Emilio Estavez, Ralph Maccio, and several others. Two good examples are Red Dawn and the Outsiders.


    he was in red dawn and the outsiders, but i've never heard of him being
    part of the brat pack group. nor was ralph macchio.

    he wasn't part of that scene.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Tue Aug 16 11:54:47 2022
    Re: Series reboots
    By: Moondog to MRO on Tue Aug 16 2022 12:48 am


    i think hbo or something got them first, but it was a bad deal for the creat

    When they got booted, they took it to ABC. sledgehammer was a fish out of w huge.


    It was always ABC. HBO only showed movies back then. The original series

    they were in talks with a cable station like hbo or something.
    it's in the dvd commentary. they were picked up but then had to get kicked out so they could do things more on their own terms with more money. the showrunner got into an argument with the execs on purpose to get the deal thrown away.

    i'd have to watch it again to see which network.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Phigan on Tue Aug 16 11:57:14 2022
    Re: Series reboots
    By: Phigan to MRO on Tue Aug 16 2022 07:37 am

    Re: Series reboots
    By: MRO to Phigan on Sun Aug 14 2022 02:35 pm

    i think a reboot of sledgehammer wouldn't work out. it was a real light and satirical show, it was so stupid it was smart. i don't think anybody can do

    Yeah when I started thinking about it, I realized it would be pretty tough. Especially with the "climate" we're in these days. But I bet someone really smart could pull it off.

    the purple and green hairs would find a way to get it canceled.

    on thing i thought was funny is all the time he would talk about how horrible his ex wife was. then the one time they showed her she was the sweetest person. that woman was his real life wife.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Wed Aug 17 10:09:00 2022
    Re: Series reboots
    By: MRO to Moondog on Tue Aug 16 2022 11:52 am

    Re: Series reboots
    By: Moondog to MRO on Tue Aug 16 2022 12:39 am


    CTH was part of the Brat Pack. He fell into the age group and did severa films with the likes of Patrick Swayze, Charlie Sheen, Emilio Estavez, Ra Maccio, and several others. Two good examples are Red Dawn and the Outsiders.


    he was in red dawn and the outsiders, but i've never heard of him being
    part of the brat pack group. nor was ralph macchio.

    he wasn't part of that scene.

    The definition is pretty loose. One definition describes all those who
    starred in Sixteen Candles and Breakfast Club. The larger, more inclusive use
    of the term includes nearly every teen actor from that era had worked on several films with other teen actors they had worked with on other films.
    The prime actors were Emilio Estavez, Anthony Michael Hall, Rob Lowe,Andrew McCarthy, Demi Moore, Judd Nelson, Molly Ringwald, and Ally Sheedy. The
    close but counts category includes Matt Dillon, Patrick Swayze, Tom Cruise,
    C. Thomas Howell, Ralph Macchio, John and Joan Cusack, Jamie Gertz, mare Winningham, Jon Cryer, James Spader, and Charlie Sheen. Leah Thompson and Jennifer Gray are also in the larger definition. I would throw Kevin Bacon
    in aswell due to his work with nearly all these actors.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Wed Aug 17 11:00:50 2022
    Re: Series reboots
    By: Moondog to MRO on Wed Aug 17 2022 10:09 am

    The definition is pretty loose. One definition describes all those who starred in Sixteen Candles and Breakfast Club. The larger, more inclusive use
    of the term includes nearly every teen actor from that era had worked on several films with other teen actors they had worked with on other films. The prime actors were Emilio Estavez, Anthony Michael Hall, Rob Lowe,Andrew McCarthy, Demi Moore, Judd Nelson, Molly Ringwald, and Ally Sheedy. The close but counts category includes Matt Dillon, Patrick Swayze, Tom Cruise, C. Thomas Howell, Ralph Macchio, John and Joan Cusack, Jamie Gertz, mare Winningham, Jon Cryer, James Spader, and Charlie Sheen. Leah Thompson and Jennifer Gray are also in the larger definition. I would throw Kevin Bacon in aswell due to his work with nearly all these actors.

    so where are you getting these definitions from?

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Wed Aug 17 21:45:00 2022
    Re: Series reboots
    By: MRO to Moondog on Wed Aug 17 2022 11:00 am

    Re: Series reboots
    By: Moondog to MRO on Wed Aug 17 2022 10:09 am

    The definition is pretty loose. One definition describes all those who starred in Sixteen Candles and Breakfast Club. The larger, more inclusiv use
    of the term includes nearly every teen actor from that era had worked on several films with other teen actors they had worked with on other films. The prime actors were Emilio Estavez, Anthony Michael Hall, Rob Lowe,Andr McCarthy, Demi Moore, Judd Nelson, Molly Ringwald, and Ally Sheedy. The close but counts category includes Matt Dillon, Patrick Swayze, Tom Cruis C. Thomas Howell, Ralph Macchio, John and Joan Cusack, Jamie Gertz, mare Winningham, Jon Cryer, James Spader, and Charlie Sheen. Leah Thompson an Jennifer Gray are also in the larger definition. I would throw Kevin Bac in aswell due to his work with nearly all these actors.

    so where are you getting these definitions from?

    One definition was coined by the writer of an article that cited a select
    group of actor that appeared several times in various productions. The
    second refers to all actors of that age group and genre of films they were making. The second definition is more retrospective, since the other actors that starred together in several films is way alrger than that chosen by a magazine writer in the mid 80's.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thu Aug 18 01:23:58 2022
    Re: Series reboots
    By: Moondog to MRO on Wed Aug 17 2022 09:45 pm

    One definition was coined by the writer of an article that cited a select group of actor that appeared several times in various productions. The second refers to all actors of that age group and genre of films they were making. The second definition is more retrospective, since the other actors that starred together in several films is way alrger than that chosen by a magazine writer in the mid 80's.

    well he's wrong.

    just think of the movie less than zero and saint elmo's fire.
    the 80s brat pack if you even want to use that term.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Moondog on Sun Aug 21 20:55:24 2022
    On 8/13/22 22:16, Moondog wrote:
    If you could reboot a movie or TV series, which would you pick and how would you do it?

    Six Million Dollar Man... probably rebooted as simply "Bionic". Main
    point would be to have a positive male role model, so slightly different
    than the original (less womanizing), but overall the same tone...
    Military hero, test pilot, accident, works for govt/spy, etc.

    If they could reboot it without a gender swap, and without making the
    main character woke, that would be nice. If Amazon could give it a
    similar treatment to Reacher or Jack Ryan, I'd be very happy.


    Think it would be funny to have a conversation with Oscar and Steve...

    Oscar: How much do you think you cost anyway?

    Steve: I don't know, five or six million.

    Oscar: You cost a bit more than six million dollars pal.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Tracker1 on Mon Aug 22 13:46:00 2022
    Re: Re: Series reboots
    By: Tracker1 to Moondog on Sun Aug 21 2022 08:55 pm

    On 8/13/22 22:16, Moondog wrote:
    If you could reboot a movie or TV series, which would you pick and how wou you do it?

    Six Million Dollar Man... probably rebooted as simply "Bionic". Main
    point would be to have a positive male role model, so slightly different than the original (less womanizing), but overall the same tone...
    Military hero, test pilot, accident, works for govt/spy, etc.

    If they could reboot it without a gender swap, and without making the
    main character woke, that would be nice. If Amazon could give it a
    similar treatment to Reacher or Jack Ryan, I'd be very happy.


    Think it would be funny to have a conversation with Oscar and Steve...

    Oscar: How much do you think you cost anyway?

    Steve: I don't know, five or six million.

    Oscar: You cost a bit more than six million dollars pal.
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    Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com

    About 15 years ago there was a Bionic Woman redo that didn't run long, but around 97 I recall a reboot where it was supposed be Austin's son that gets injured and enlisted to get the cybernetic implants. Instead of just
    replacing an arm and legs without consideration how the rest of the body is massively under spec to handle the stresses of lifting engine blocks and leaping 20 feet, the new procedure involved flooding the body with nanobots wh ich in turn fuse to the spinal and nervous system to create the neural
    network, and more nanobots which bond to the bone and muscles to enhance strength and durability.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Tracker1 on Mon Aug 22 09:13:00 2022
    Tracker1 wrote to Moondog <=-

    Six Million Dollar Man... probably rebooted as simply "Bionic". Main point would be to have a positive male role model, so slightly
    different than the original (less womanizing), but overall the same tone... Military hero, test pilot, accident, works for govt/spy, etc.

    That's got a better ring than 32 million dollar man (adjusted for inflation)

    If they could reboot it without a gender swap, and without making the
    main character woke, that would be nice. If Amazon could give it a similar treatment to Reacher or Jack Ryan, I'd be very happy.

    I want to see Steve Austin versus Predator.

    :)



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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Moondog on Wed Aug 24 15:02:52 2022
    On 8/22/22 10:46, Moondog wrote:
    Six Million Dollar Man... probably rebooted as simply "Bionic". Main
    point would be to have a positive male role model, so slightly different
    than the original (less womanizing), but overall the same tone...
    Military hero, test pilot, accident, works for govt/spy, etc.
    ...

    About 15 years ago there was a Bionic Woman redo that didn't run long, but around 97 I recall a reboot where it was supposed be Austin's son that gets injured and enlisted to get the cybernetic implants. Instead of just replacing an arm and legs without consideration how the rest of the body is massively under spec to handle the stresses of lifting engine blocks and leaping 20 feet, the new procedure involved flooding the body with nanobots wh
    ich in turn fuse to the spinal and nervous system to create the neural network, and more nanobots which bond to the bone and muscles to enhance strength and durability.

    It was a made for TV movie... been (re)watching Six Million Dollar Man piecemeal the past couple months... once I get through Bionic Woman
    going to do the TV movies.

    They recently did a US BluRay release of Six Million Dollar Man and the
    Bionic Woman is out in a month or so... will probably rip/encode from
    the newer source and continue watching from that.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Tracker1 on Thu Aug 25 11:34:00 2022
    Re: Re: Series reboots
    By: Tracker1 to Moondog on Wed Aug 24 2022 03:02 pm

    On 8/22/22 10:46, Moondog wrote:
    Six Million Dollar Man... probably rebooted as simply "Bionic". Main
    point would be to have a positive male role model, so slightly different >> than the original (less womanizing), but overall the same tone...
    Military hero, test pilot, accident, works for govt/spy, etc.
    ...

    About 15 years ago there was a Bionic Woman redo that didn't run long, but around 97 I recall a reboot where it was supposed be Austin's son that get injured and enlisted to get the cybernetic implants. Instead of just replacing an arm and legs without consideration how the rest of the body i massively under spec to handle the stresses of lifting engine blocks and leaping 20 feet, the new procedure involved flooding the body with nanobot ich in turn fuse to the spinal and nervous system to create the neural network, and more nanobots which bond to the bone and muscles to enhance strength and durability.

    It was a made for TV movie... been (re)watching Six Million Dollar Man piecemeal the past couple months... once I get through Bionic Woman
    going to do the TV movies.

    They recently did a US BluRay release of Six Million Dollar Man and the Bionic Woman is out in a month or so... will probably rip/encode from
    the newer source and continue watching from that.
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    Michael J. Ryan - tracker1@roughneckbbs.com

    I haven't watched much in reruns, but i recall the Bigfoot episodes, the Mars probe and it's successor, and the story arc where people were being replaced
    by robots. The robots were dead ringers, except they were heavy AF. that
    was their giveaway.

    I recall Andre the Giant as the first Bigfoot, and wasn't the second time he appeared played by Ted Cassidy?

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