• voter fraud

    From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to All on Fri Feb 16 23:36:55 2024
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    so this happened to me in my home town. someone was voting for me.
    all they had to do is give my name. they didn't say to state your address to match up the name. they would say "this person at (address)?" and
    all they would have to say is yes.
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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to MRO on Sat Feb 17 06:36:55 2024
    Re: voter fraud
    By: MRO to All on Fri Feb 16 2024 11:36 pm

    all they had to do is give my name. they didn't say to state your address to match up the name. they would say "this person at (address)?" and
    all they would have to say is yes.

    Yep, that's some straight up bull right there. ID checks and verification should be the bare fucking minimum.

    But then come the complaints that ID laws discriminate; that turnout rates are lower for non-whites in areas where the laws are strict.

    Okay, if that's the case then **why** are the turnouts lower for non-whites? What causes them to not show up when such laws are strict? Find the answer to that and you have the real reason turnouts are lower in stricter voter ID law areas. Solve that problem and there ya go, turnouts should go back to normal.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sat Feb 17 10:30:00 2024
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    so this happened to me in my home town. someone was voting for me.
    all they had to do is give my name. they didn't say to state your address to tch up the name. they would say "this person at (address)?" and
    all they would have to say is yes.

    That is pretty lazy on the part of the polling place attendent. Sounds
    like they don't need to be working there any more, at the very least.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Kurisu on Sat Feb 17 11:48:36 2024
    Re: voter fraud
    By: Kurisu to MRO on Sat Feb 17 2024 06:36 am

    Yep, that's some straight up bull right there. ID checks and verification should be the bare fucking minimum.

    But then come the complaints that ID laws discriminate; that turnout rates are lower for non-whites in areas where the laws are strict.


    I remember videos they made of people going to black communities.
    they ask black people if they have id. they said of course i have id! who wouldn't have id! Then they'd say do you not know what (this word) means and other things that democrats would use to demean and cast black people as unintelligent.


    it's all a big game.
    i'm in milwaukee. so many black americans voted for joe biden it makes no sense. most people don't even vote. there was obvious voter fraud. voting observers were KICKED OUT of voting halls, as well.

    to that and you have the real reason turnouts are lower in stricter voter ID law areas. Solve that problem and there ya go, turnouts should go back to normal. _____

    Honestly I do not want to waste the time voting anymore. I think our system is too old, too easy to manipulate and too convoluted. I don't trust anything.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Feb 17 11:51:36 2024
    Re: voter fraud
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Feb 17 2024 10:30 am

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2qtRiOu0Ud/

    so this happened to me in my home town. someone was voting for me.
    all they had to do is give my name. they didn't say to state your address to tch up the name. they would say "this person at (address)?" and
    all they would have to say is yes.

    That is pretty lazy on the part of the polling place attendent. Sounds
    like they don't need to be working there any more, at the very least.


    years later they would ask for id but if they're corrupt, things will still happen. it's just a book where they check that yes this person came on this date.

    during those years with the fraud i remember there being a super super old woman that could barely function or find names in the book. there was a younger person who would always jump in and help her.

    maybe someone did not vote for me. maybe they just checked off names incorrectly? no way to know. all i know is it happened MANY times and when i moved, it ended. There's nothing i can do about. Furthermore, in my home town they've had other forms of voter fraud and they won't even persue charges when law enforcement has reported it.
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  • From fusion@VERT/CFBBS to Kurisu on Sat Feb 17 14:43:00 2024
    On 17 Feb 2024, Kurisu said the following...

    But then come the complaints that ID laws discriminate; that turnout
    rates are lower for non-whites in areas where the laws are strict.

    Okay, if that's the case then **why** are the turnouts lower for non-whites? What causes them to not show up when such laws are strict? Find the answer to that and you have the real reason turnouts are lower
    in stricter voter ID law areas. Solve that problem and there ya go, turnouts should go back to normal. _____

    there IS no turnout. and no problem. those people don't stop showing up because they can't produce ID.. they never did in the first place. the only thing the laws do is keep the fraudsters at bay.

    so if that's the case, are there groups of random white people voting on behalf of the black people in their community? bit ironic..

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  • From Kurisu@VERT/FINALZON to fusion on Sat Feb 17 14:18:29 2024
    Re: Re: voter fraud
    By: fusion to Kurisu on Sat Feb 17 2024 02:43 pm

    there IS no turnout. and no problem. those people don't stop showing up because they can't produce ID.. they never did in the first place. the only thing the laws do is keep the fraudsters at bay.

    Yeah I'm just playing devils advocate here to the counterpoint.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to fusion on Sat Feb 17 14:46:06 2024
    Re: Re: voter fraud
    By: fusion to Kurisu on Sat Feb 17 2024 02:43 pm


    there IS no turnout. and no problem. those people don't stop showing up because they can't produce ID.. they never did in the first place. the only thing the laws do is keep the fraudsters at bay.


    i had to go do a random drugtest for my employer the other week. i got no problem with it because i dont do drugs and i milk that time. i go out for breakfast or lunch and get some errands done while i do it and get paid for it.

    anyways, bunch of hombres are in there too and they have to take physicals or whatever. they don't speak english and the lady keeps asking them for id. i whip out my drivers license and say hey.. "ID". then they finally smile and understand.

    They turn them all away. they have wallets... but no IDs. I think democrats want those guys to be future voters; i think that's the gameplan.

    Personally I think immigrants should have fast path to becoming citizens and getting the rights they deserve. immigrant workers are abused and misused.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sun Feb 18 10:31:00 2024
    maybe someone did not vote for me. maybe they just checked off names incorrect
    ? no way to know. all i know is it happened MANY times and when i moved, it e
    ed. There's nothing i can do about. Furthermore, in my home town they've had her forms of voter fraud and they won't even persue charges when law enforceme
    has reported it.

    They just need to say "and they voted for the Republicans" or "...the bad orange man!" and that'll get charges going.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to KURISU on Sun Feb 18 10:50:00 2024
    Okay, if that's the case then **why** are the turnouts lower for non-whites? W
    t causes them to not show up when such laws are strict? Find the answer to tha
    and you have the real reason turnouts are lower in stricter voter ID law areas
    Solve that problem and there ya go, turnouts should go back to normal.

    Here they usually point out that it is more difficult for non-whites to get proper ID due to the areas they live in. Unless they live in the middle of nowhere, it is the urban areas where it is easier to get the new "Real IDs" here.

    So, yeah, they don't want to solve whatever the issue is that causes it to
    be more difficult to get proper ID. They want to be lazy and just not
    require IDs to vote (even though they are required for a ton of other
    stuff that people need to do), plus that gives them something to keep complaining about without rather than fixing it.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sun Feb 18 10:52:00 2024
    Personally I think immigrants should have fast path to becoming citizens and ge
    ting the rights they deserve. immigrant workers are abused and misused.

    If they are working, or at least trying to, and paying taxes I agree. A
    good many of them are doing those things a lot better than citizens are.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sun Feb 18 15:28:10 2024
    Re: voter fraud
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Feb 18 2024 10:31 am

    it e
    ed. There's nothing i can do about. Furthermore, in my home town they've had her forms of voter fraud and they won't even persue charges when law enforceme
    has reported it.

    They just need to say "and they voted for the Republicans" or "...the bad orange man!" and that'll get charges going.

    Mike

    yeah, seriously. they even had people who were voting for people in nursing homes. of course they were democrat votes.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sun Feb 18 15:31:44 2024
    Re: voter fraud
    By: Dumas Walker to KURISU on Sun Feb 18 2024 10:50 am


    Here they usually point out that it is more difficult for non-whites to get proper ID due to the areas they live in. Unless they live in the middle of nowhere, it is the urban areas where it is easier to get the new "Real IDs" here.



    every bus system takes people to the dmv. i find it hard to believe that people can't get ID. you need an ID to cash checks. the only time i've seen the 'people can't get id' argument is in regards to voting. People can't function without identification. maybe they are talking about homeless people? but i'm sure there's people who will drive groups of homeless people to get ID so they can vote.

    I think it's largely a made up situation. This year i didn't even have to renew my drivers license in person. i just did it online and then i'm good for another several years.

    stuff that people need to do), plus that gives them something to keep complaining about without rather than fixing it.

    i think it's a chess piece in voter fraud. the argument about racism, people can't get id, black people are too stupid for this and that, etc
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sun Feb 18 15:34:40 2024
    Re: Re: voter fraud
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Feb 18 2024 10:52 am

    Personally I think immigrants should have fast path to becoming citizens and ge
    ting the rights they deserve. immigrant workers are abused and misused.

    If they are working, or at least trying to, and paying taxes I agree. A good many of them are doing those things a lot better than citizens are.


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    i think a big problem is they do not 'melt' into society. they have their own places they go to have fun, they have their own places to eat and do business.
    There's a big lauguage barrier. learning another language when you are an adult is super difficult and takes a lot of time.
    i'm thinking about hispanics now but this is relevant for other people that immigrate here.

    If we opened up citizenship for everyone that is living here I think a lot of people wouldn't do it because they wouldn't know about it. Furthermore i think they would be scared they would be deported (fear mongering by their slaveowners, the democrats)
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Sun Feb 18 16:34:32 2024
    Re: voter fraud
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sun Feb 18 2024 03:31 pm

    you need an ID to cash checks.

    Not necessarily anymore. There are bank apps for smartphones that let you deposit a check (often up to an amount like $5,000) by taking photos of the front and back with your phone. I've also deposited checks at my bank's ATM and didn't need to show ID.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sun Feb 18 19:09:11 2024
    Re: voter fraud
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Sun Feb 18 2024 04:34 pm

    Re: voter fraud
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sun Feb 18 2024 03:31 pm

    you need an ID to cash checks.

    Not necessarily anymore. There are bank apps for smartphones that let you deposit a check (often up to an amount like $5,000) by taking photos of the front and back with your phone. I've also deposited checks at my bank's ATM and didn't need to show ID.


    how did these hypothetical people setup bank accounts and get smartphones if they don't own identification?
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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Dumas Walker on Sun Feb 18 16:32:00 2024
    Re: voter fraud
    By: Dumas Walker to KURISU on Sun Feb 18 2024 10:50 am

    So, yeah, they don't want to solve whatever the issue is that causes it to be more difficult to get proper ID. They want to be lazy and just not require IDs to vote (even though they are required for a ton of other
    stuff that people need to do), plus that gives them something to keep complaining about without rather than fixing it.

    Who is 'they'? It sounds like you are talking about the boogie man.

    How do you guys sleep at night with so many scary theys around? I bet you don't. Lol.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Mon Feb 19 08:42:00 2024
    ople wouldn't do it because they wouldn't know about it. Furthermore i think ey would be scared they would be deported (fear mongering by their slaveowners
    the democrats)

    This is unfortunately likely correct.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NOPANTS on Mon Feb 19 08:46:00 2024
    So, yeah, they don't want to solve whatever the issue is that causes it to be more difficult to get proper ID. They want to be lazy and just not require IDs to vote (even though they are required for a ton of other stuff that people need to do), plus that gives them something to keep complaining about without rather than fixing it.

    Who is 'they'? It sounds like you are talking about the boogie man.

    You cut out the part I was responding to. Who "they" are was contained in
    that part. Maybe you are just too dumb to understand context but, in this case, "they" are the Democrats who make all of the arguments about why it
    is supposedly so difficult to get an ID, and "they" do exist because "they" complain about that same damn thing every time anyone mentions that you
    should be able to produce a proper ID in order to vote.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Mon Feb 19 09:00:00 2024
    every bus system takes people to the dmv. i find it hard to believe that people
    can't get ID. you need an ID to cash checks. the only time i've seen the 'peop
    e can't get id' argument is in regards to voting. People can't function withou
    identification. maybe they are talking about homeless people? but i'm sure
    here's people who will drive groups of homeless people to get ID so they can vo
    e.

    It does in the city, which is where the Democrats claim the "no ID" problem
    is. Here, when they implemented the "Real IDs" (the ones mandated by the
    Feds if you want to fly on planes), many of the local offices in smaller
    areas had so much trouble implementing the process that the state took it
    over. Now, you have to be able to travel to a regional office to get your
    ID.

    For city folk, nothing changed. For some of the rural areas, that might
    take most of a day. Most of those folks want/need to be able to drive, so
    they do it but, if there is a group in this state that is underserved by
    "ID services" it would be people in the rural areas and not our urban population.

    One of the local state reps has been trying to pass a law to make it easier
    to get the "non-Real ID" option licences/ID cards for folks who don't care about flying.

    I think it's largely a made up situation. This year i didn't even have to ren
    my drivers license in person. i just did it online and then i'm good for anot
    r several years.

    Sounds like your state came up with a different (and probably better) way to address the issue.

    stuff that people need to do), plus that gives them something to keep complaining about without rather than fixing it.

    i think it's a chess piece in voter fraud. the argument about racism, people n't get id, black people are too stupid for this and that, etc

    Yes. It is a chess piece that the Democrats/left want to keep on the board.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Mon Feb 19 09:05:00 2024
    you need an ID to cash checks.

    Not necessarily anymore. There are bank apps for smartphones that let you dep
    it a check (often up to an amount like $5,000) by taking photos of the front a
    back with your phone. I've also deposited checks at my bank's ATM and didn't
    eed to show ID.

    Note that it says "cash checks" and not deposit them. I have never needed
    an ID to *deposit* a check into my own bank. I have only needed an ID to
    try to *cash* one somewhere other than my own bank.

    That honestly doesn't happen too much anymore, for me anyway.

    I *do* need an ID to set up a bank account, get a COVID vax, pass a
    background check to get a job, and for several other things.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Nightfox on Mon Feb 19 09:13:00 2024
    Hello Nightfox!

    [...] I've also deposited checks at my
    bank's ATM and didn't need to show ID.

    You still need an ID to open a bnk account in the first place.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Mon Feb 19 15:13:33 2024
    Re: voter fraud
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Feb 19 2024 09:00 am

    It does in the city, which is where the Democrats claim the "no ID" problem is. Here, when they implemented the "Real IDs" (the ones mandated by the Feds if you want to fly on planes), many of the local offices in smaller areas had so much trouble implementing the process that the state took it over. Now, you have to be able to travel to a regional office to get your ID.


    in my state the real id has been pushed off for a very very long time.
    right now they are saying you need one in 2025.

    I think it's largely a made up situation. This year i didn't even have to ren
    my drivers license in person. i just did it online and then i'm good for anot
    r several years.

    Sounds like your state came up with a different (and probably better) way to address the issue.

    that was a throwback to covid. they also waived drivers tests for people
    that needed to get drivers licenses. they recently lifted taht waiver for renewal and no drivers test.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Mon Feb 19 15:15:25 2024
    Re: voter fraud
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Mon Feb 19 2024 09:05 am


    Note that it says "cash checks" and not deposit them. I have never needed an ID to *deposit* a check into my own bank. I have only needed an ID to try to *cash* one somewhere other than my own bank.

    That honestly doesn't happen too much anymore, for me anyway.

    i need an id to do anything at my bank and credit union.
    i never deposited a check at an atm; i use direct deposit or take a photo.

    i think they should snap a photo of your id for dropping money at an atm and flashcash. there's a lot of fraud.
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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Dumas Walker on Mon Feb 19 18:41:00 2024
    Re: voter fraud
    By: Dumas Walker to NOPANTS on Mon Feb 19 2024 08:46 am

    You cut out the part I was responding to. Who "they" are was contained in that part. Maybe you are just too dumb to understand context but, in this case, "they" are the Democrats who make all of the arguments about why it
    is supposedly so difficult to get an ID, and "they" do exist because "they" complain about that same damn thing every time anyone mentions that you should be able to produce a proper ID in order to vote.

    I quoted your whole thing this time.

    We have some theys by us too that mow all the lawns around here and chill in the grass and check out all the tail on the way to yoga class, while the guys with ID are at work.

    I do my own lawn, but I always wonder if I should wake them from their, what is it, siesta dreaming about yoga butts and ask them for some f*cking ID.

    Lululemon tho...

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tue Feb 20 08:37:00 2024
    in my state the real id has been pushed off for a very very long time.
    right now they are saying you need one in 2025.

    Here, they got a waiver for a while but finally decided they needed to push forward with it or Kentuckians wouldn't be able to fly without a passport.
    So they instituted it in 2019. By 2020, they moved driver's licensing to regional offices only due to issues at the county level with getting it implemented and working.

    The KYTC made it sound like they had to get it done then, but it sounds
    like maybe they did not.

    When I got my license renewed in 2019, the biggest issue I noticed was that people did not follow directions and did not have the proper documentation required if they wanted the Real ID. That caused the lines to be more
    horrible than usual, and more confrontations between customers and staff.
    They did a very good job of advertising ahead of time, including sending
    you a brochure listing the requirements before your ID came up for renewal,
    so there were a lot of folks just not paying attention or trying to scam
    the system.

    that was a throwback to covid. they also waived drivers tests for people
    that needed to get drivers licenses. they recently lifted taht waiver for ren
    al and no drivers test.

    Part of that sounds a little dangerous. ;)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tue Feb 20 08:39:00 2024
    i need an id to do anything at my bank and credit union.
    i never deposited a check at an atm; i use direct deposit or take a photo.

    I think they ask for my ID if I go into the lobby to deposit something, but only if I don't have a deposit slip or my member card handy.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to NOPANTS on Wed Feb 21 09:25:00 2024
    You cut out the part I was responding to. Who "they" are was contained in that part. Maybe you are just too dumb to understand context but, in this case, "they" are the Democrats who make all of the arguments about why it is supposedly so difficult to get an ID, and "they" do exist because "they"
    complain about that same damn thing every time anyone mentions that you should be able to produce a proper ID in order to vote.

    I quoted your whole thing this time.

    We have some theys by us too that mow all the lawns around here and chill in the grass and check out all the tail on the way to yoga class, while the guys with ID are at work.

    I do my own lawn, but I always wonder if I should wake them from their, what i
    it, siesta dreaming about yoga butts and ask them for some f*cking ID.

    So you have Democrat Politicians (the "they" in every instance of my quote)
    who mow lawns, check out tail, and don't go to their elected offices?
    Shame on them.


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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Dumas Walker on Wed Feb 21 18:54:00 2024
    Re: voter fraud
    By: Dumas Walker to NOPANTS on Wed Feb 21 2024 09:25 am

    Shame on them.

    I know. "they" are everywhere.

    "they" spray glyphosate right on my neighbors swingset, probably giving the kids enlarged lymph nodes.

    "they" seem to be having a blast hanging out in the sun on some fool's 1.4M property while he's at work.

    Maybe "they" can be directed to the General forum for ID right here.
    Our
    team produces high quality products, authentic database passports, databases or citizenship documents and other ID cards.

    So easy even a "they" could figure it out.

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